"It doesn't matter" to install an elevator and move a little greenery? "Destroy green" conflict in a community for adding elevators to cut down 5 meters wide greening

On November 21, Zhaojiayuan Community, No. 69 Tiandong Road, Xuhui District, Shanghai, was holding the fourth coordination meeting for a "green destruction" complaint to discuss a solution. The complaint of "destroying green" originated from the installation of elevators in two multi-storey buildings at No. 76 and No. 78 in the residential area. In the elevator installation project, the construction party eradicated a total of more than 5 meters wide and nearly 100 square meters of green belts, including two osmanthus trees more than 10 years old, for various reasons such as "the width of the fire passage reaches the standard", "maintaining road patency" and "facilitating residents' parking.

"Too casual!" According to residents of the residential area, the above-mentioned shoveling green operation is not only inconsistent with the planning publicity plan, but also not mentioned in the consultation of the owners' meeting. Other residents of the residential area were kept in the dark during the whole process. When it was found, the greening had become floor tiles and the car was parked on it. In this regard, some community managers reply is:"The installation of elevators is a livelihood project, and parking demand is a top priority. What does it matter to move a little greening? Why take it so seriously?"

At present, adhering to the principle of "can add as much as possible, willing to speed up the addition", the installation of elevators in Shencheng continues to speed up, and at the same time, similar disputes over green destruction caused by the installation of elevators also occur frequently. The old residential area is stretched, and the installation of elevators will inevitably change or even occupy part of the green space. Is it really "okay" to move a little greenery? How to operate is "according to laws and regulations"?

△ Zhaojiayuan Community, 69 Tiandong Road.

More than "give up 20 to 30 centimeters"

Zhaojiayuan Community is an old community built in the late 1990 s and is part of Caoxi Four Villages. The property form in the community is complex. There are not only multi-storey after-sales public houses and multi-storey commercial houses, but also a 21-storey high-rise residential building. The two doors of No. 76 and No. 78 with elevators are next to each other, both of which are 6-storey commercial houses. According to residents, the elevator project was signed and started in December 2020, and construction began in September 2021. "As far as the elevator project itself is concerned, there is no big problem with the procedures."

△ On the figure, there are two gate buildings No. 76 and No. 78 equipped with elevators. It can be seen that the brand-new tall red elevator shaft protrudes outside the building body.

Enter the residential area from the gate of Caodong 3rd Road. On the right hand side are the two gate buildings 76 and 78. The new tall red elevator shaft protrudes outside the building and looks spectacular. Under the elevator shaft "squeeze", the space in front of the building is somewhat narrow. On the side of No. 76 and No. 78, in the square area enclosed by the middle of the two elevator shafts, three cars were parked diagonally."It was originally a rectangular green belt more than 4 meters wide and nearly 10 meters long. There were two osmanthus trees planted for more than 10 years. Now it is gone," recalled Wang Ying, a resident of No. 70 high-rise building.On the other side of the No. 70 high-rise building near the north, there is a large long green belt, which is part of the main greening of the community, planted with low shrubs and tall camphor trees."It's much smaller than before," Wang Ying pointed to the square bricks on the ground and taught reporters to distinguish the color difference between the old and new bricks. "The brighter ones are the ones that have just been replaced". The reporter counted according to the color and indented the distance of at least 5 bricks, which is almost more than 1 meter wide.

Wang Ying said that shortly after the construction team entered last year, the above two places were eradicated. According to the explanation of the construction party, the rectangular green belts on the 76 and 78 sides were eradicated to make room for temporary stacking of construction materials, while the green belts on the 70 side were backed inward to keep the roads unobstructed during construction and ensure the normal parking of residents. According to many residents of Building 70, seeing the construction party cutting down osmanthus trees and pruning the camphor trees, everyone was very distressed and had negotiated with the construction party,"The construction party promised that the project would be restored as soon as it was completed, and the two osmanthus trees would be replanted with new seedlings."

In July this year, the ladder project was completed. Looking at the construction side gradually leveling the road surface, cleaning up the construction site and finally withdrawing from the site, there is no sign of restoring the two greenery.Wang Ying found the construction workers again, but the other side changed the previous statement, saying that "the industry committee and the property let us do this construction", and asked residents, "greening is not reduced, how can the elevator built up?" After communication failed, on July 27, residents called "12345" to complain.On August 15, the Xuhui district government settled the complaint and replied to the public that "the addition of elevators to the existing conditions in the residential area will affect the greening and parking spaces. when going through the approval process, the third party to add elevators will take into account not reducing the parking spaces in the residential area as much as possible to retreat the greening by 20 to 30 centimeters".

"Where is this only 30 centimeters back?" According to residents estimates, the two pieces of greening add up to more than 5 meters wide, covering an area of nearly 100 square meters. In addition, the residents found the consultation tickets and the publicized building plans for the ladder addition procedures in 2020, and found that none of them involved greening modifications. So, whose decision was it to eradicate greening like this?

To take into account the parking can only move green

Why is it not restored after the eradication of large areas of greening? The reporter found the "Alpha" elevator company, which is built on behalf of the ladder, and its project leader, Song Mou, described the ins and outs. He first showed the reporter a drawing of the "new version" of the building plan for installing elevators on April 22, 2021. on the drawing, a long shadow was cast on the concession area of the green belt on the side of building 70, which was marked as "this project will be expanded into a fire passage after 33.64 square meters of greening are removed, with a width of 4 meters, and the greening width will be narrowed from the original 5.72 meters to the present 4.37 meters". That is to say, the addition of elevators leads to the narrowing of the original passage, which does not meet the requirements of the fire passage, and can only be supplemented by making room for greening. "We carried out the construction in strict accordance with the drawings approved by the city," Song stressed.

As for the rectangular green belts on the 76th and 78th sides that have not been restored, his explanation is that he has "been instructed by the industry committee and the property".It is said that three cars were parked along the edge of the green belt on the side of Building 70. After adding ladders, the passage is narrowed, and side parking is more difficult. Therefore, the property and industry committee considered directly paving the rectangular green belt used for placing building materials during the construction process with floor tiles and changing it into inclined parking spaces.After such renovation, there is surplus space in addition to the three fixed parking spaces designated on the site, and two additional cars can be temporarily parked. "The conditions are very limited, and the parking needs of residents must be taken into account. This is the only way to operate," Song said.

However, residents do not agree with the above statement. Gong Wen, a resident of Building 70, said,The new version of the construction drawings are not publicized in the community, and the procedures are not standardized.However, in order to meet the standards of the fire passage, the greening is at least famous,There is no basis for the removal of a whole piece of greening on the other side.. "Do you need to shovel away so much greenery to take care of the parking? Are there any other optimization schemes?" More importantly, "Have you obtained the consent of the residents of the whole community?" Zhu Guanrong, the head of Building 70, believes that "this arbitrary practice cannot be condoned". She said that the multi-storey public houses such as No. 50 and No. 52 in the community will also be installed with elevators one after another. If all of them are "cut first and play later", how much green will be left in the community in the end?

It is precisely because of this that the residents of Building 70 defended their rights in many ways and demanded that the construction be carried out in accordance with the drawings to restore the damaged greening. From September 15 to early November, the South No. 1 neighborhood committee of Caohejing Street, where the community is located, has set up a platform and successively convened Jiatai on behalf of the construction party, the industry committee, the property and residents' representatives, and organized three coordination meetings to discuss remedial measures. However, according to feedback from residents, few coordination meetings have made little progress.

Tang Fei, secretary of the general party branch of a residential area in the south, believes that the construction party on behalf of the ladder has not carried out the construction according to the plan drawings, and alpha, the construction party on behalf of the ladder, should be responsible for coming up with the rectification plan and taking responsibility to the end. However, Alpha thinks that the shovel green parking is in accordance with the requirements of the industry committee and the property, and the responsibility does not lie with them. Now to rectify, the industry committee and the property should come up with a plan and implement it after public consultation in the community. And who will pay the cost, also have to have a statement; At the same time, reporters have called Sun Weisong, director of the community industry committee, and the property manager seat when the ladder was under construction. They all denied that they had instructed Alpha to shovel green parking......

How to avoid the contradiction between adding ladders and destroying green frequently?

In the installation of the elevator district, change a little green is usually difficult to avoid. "I have never met such a haggle!" Song mou, head of the alpha project, felt very "unjust" for the accusation of "not carrying out the construction according to the drawings". He believes that in order not to increase the parking contradiction, it is a common practice to adjust the greening according to the actual situation when installing elevators in old residential areas, and Alpha also operates in this way in other residential areas.

"Do it all" is not necessarily right! The reporter consulted the Shanghai Urban Management and Law Enforcement Bureau,The adjustment of community greening needs to be reported to the greening management department for approval or filing. If this link is missing for direct operation, it will be recognized as "destroying green" by law enforcement agencies". According to the urban management and law enforcement department, there are not many disputes caused by this: that is, some residents who did not support the addition of ladders originally launched complaints immediately after discovering the phenomenon of destroying green, thus affecting the normal process of adding ladders. This also reminds all parties involved in the ladder to standardize the operation.

How to standardize the operation? The reporter called Xuhui District Greening Management Center. The staff of the examination and approval department told reporters that to handle the formalities for the greening adjustment of the residential area, it is usually necessary to provide a detailed adjustment plan, including drawings for eradication and compensation, and to ensure that the total green area of the residential area will not be reduced. Involving tree migration, landscape adjustment needs to go through the approval procedures, by the approval personnel on-site inspection after confirmation of approval. At the same time, the staff member stressed that the area of the green belt belongs to the common part of all the owners, and the occupation or adjustment should seek the opinions of all the owners in the building zoning, and the quorum number and area should participate in the voting.

However, because the old community generally does not have the conditions for "greening", in fact, there are "very few" cases that go through the approval and filing procedures ". The staff of Xuhui District Greening Management Center said frankly that in the ladder project, it is the key to avoid disputes and complaints without going through the approval and filing procedures. That is, reasonable design in the early stage, a good greening adjustment plan, and full public consultation to solicit opinions, so as to resolve the contradiction in advance.

The installation of elevators is a rigorous project, and the effective construction plan through consultation and approval is the basis for operation.Sun Ye, President of Shanghai People's Mediation Association and Director of Pudong New Area Property Management Dispute Mediation CommitteeIt is suggested that in the operation of installing elevators,The details such as greening changes should be clearly thought out in the preliminary design plan, and then reflected in the architectural design plan after optimization, and the owners' meeting should be held in the community for consultation. Once the consultation is passed, it should be implemented in strict accordance with the plan. "The construction plan changed during the construction is obviously unreasonable and should be rectified."

On November 21, the caohejing Street Housing Office came forward to hold a coordination meeting again to solve the complaint about the destruction of green in Zhaojiayuan Community. At the meeting, residents of building 70 suggested that the rectangular greening on sides 76 and 78 could be restored in the form of "scaffolding greening", which could give consideration to greening and ground parking. At present, caohejing Street has arranged on-the-spot investigation by greening planners to come up with specific rectification proposals, and the rectification costs will be settled through negotiation between the elevator company and the property. Tang Fei, secretary of the general party branch of a residential area in the south, said that after the rectification plan is determined, a "supplementary consultation" will be carried out in the community and will not be implemented until it is approved.

Source: Shangguan News, Tencent News Client

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